Topic: Chinese technique vs Russian technique

[Cloud Strife]

Hey guys, I hope I didn't offend anyone by categorizing technique by race     Anyways, the Chinese do have a distinctive way of lifting. They seem to employ the legs much more in the first pull. Sometimes, the first pull is even purposely done slow, or it looks like it. The Russians on the other hand seem to do the first pull with more of a combination of back and legs. It looks fast.


Which style do you guys prefer, and which do you find more effective and efficient in lifting?


For example, I have yet to see a Chinese lifter lift like Ilya Ilin. Some of them I bet may say he doesn't have "good" technique, but Ilya Ilin is a monster.


In the end, I do not think there is "good" or "bad" technique.


I'm curious about what you guys think.

[TheRedReaper]

Well it is sort of an offence, though not as you thought - "Chinese" and "Russian" are not actually races. They are nationalities. Both nations have a dominant race (Russia stems mostly from caucasian whilst Chinese are majority mongoloid), but there are still many nationals of those countries who are of different genetic lineages and there are sub races in mongoloid and caucasian on top of that, sooooo...
(Don't bother replying to this bit, but - I just wanted to point it out. I don't actually care much about it. But I get it all the time with people trying to tell my daughter, who is a native Thai and Thai national but has an angle-saxon father (me), that she is only "half-Thai" as if there is such a thing!)
 
Anyway...
 
I was not familiar there was a difference in technique. I was taught that the first pull was just to break the weight from the floor and that the explosion of speed was in the second pull, so that is the way I do it. I will look further into this, but. Maybe I would like it better the other way. Thanks for bringing it to light.

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

Race and nations are myths. Everyone is an individual and nations are imaginary lines on maps determined only by which terrorist protection racket is dominating the area via violence.

[Arturo Gómez]

I agree with the idea of Chris about nations and races. But I think that coaches today are not focused in "the best technique for each individual", but in a techinique and a metodology that allows them to present a competitive team.


So, they choose those than provide more proportion of accurate lifters in the country where they work.

[TheRedReaper]

Race and nations are myths. Everyone is an individual and nations are imaginary lines on maps determined only by which terrorist protection racket is dominating the area via violence.

Yes, but, "The caucasian man with black hair who spoke with a thick Russian accent," is much more effective in description than, "The young individual in the red hooded sweater..."

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

For some people, those indeed may be interesting details. I care little about hair color or accent. I am more interested in the philosophy of the person. Are they in favor of legalized violence- taxation-extortion-slavery? If so, I don't want to know them.

[TheRedReaper]

"Yes ma'am, and do you have a description of the man who robbed you?"
 
"I think he was republican. Maybe a supporter of tax reform. He might be interested in the woman's rights movements. I also got a vibe of involvement in Christians Against Drink Driving membership."
 
"Yes yes. And do you have any useful description to add to that?"

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

NEVER call the cops unless you risk them coming after you for not doing so. They almost always make whatever problem you have worse, often attacking and even killing the victim. They are highly militarized, at least in Amerika, and shoot first and ask questions later. The state also screens out the nonviolent or anyone with any evidence of independent thought and place restrictions on IQ, forbidding the hiring of highly intelligent people, who typically are more likely to refuse evil orders. In Amerika, you are 8x more likely to be murdered by a cop than anyone else.