Topic: human growth hormones, which is described as a scientific training method

[ironbaby]

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/chinese-olympians-subjected-to-routine-doping-t144234.html

[movmasty]

What does that mean?

That China invented the doping?

Didnt know that Ben Johnson was chinese, and Flo Griffith had enough muscles to fit a couple of chinese swimmers.

When antidoping isnt effective, a doped athlete will likely win, then all top competitors must get in.

[ironbaby]

means that they are a country that dictates its athletes, forces it on their lifters, and the doctors to do it. if  not the gov. will punish them. They invented a way, that they will get away with for along time. They have their own steroids, they know the test, and have steroids that other countries do not have. They basicly made the correct way to dope, not inventing. The chances of them getting caught then other countries, is very sly.

[movmasty]

means that they are a country that dictates its athletes, forces it on their lifters, and the doctors to do it. if  not the gov. will punish them. They invented a way, that they will get away with for along time. They have their own steroids, they know the test, and have steroids that other countries do not have. They basicly made the correct way to dope, not inventing. The chances of them getting caught then other countries, is very sly.

Chinese do doping as the others do, dictatorship was very more effective in urss, and still is.
Nice to know that a still underdeveloped country has more knowledge than western laboratories
unfortunately steroid test doesnt work by searching for a specifc substance, every steroid must have the testosterone anabolic nucleus(when the androgenic one is modified),
and carbon isotope ratio mass spectrometry can reveal it,
and as well its sintetic origin, and then the ratio with internal epitestosterone.

[movmasty]

New substances are these, but come from the west not from the east, and are already banned

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARM) are a new class of androgen receptor targeting.
They are intended to have the same kind of effects as androgenic drugs like anabolic steroids but be much more selective in their action.

Selective androgen receptor modulators may also be used by athletes to assist in training and increase physical stamina and fitness, potentially producing effects similar to anabolic steroids but with significantly less side effects.
For this reason, SARMs have already been banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency since January 2008 despite no drugs from this class yet being in clinical use, and blood tests for all known SARMs are currently being developed