Topic: How much does a medalist train?

[movmasty]

Considering snatch and c&j, reps how you can do in a confortable way.

1st week
3 heavy days 80%
3 light days  75%

2nd week*
 2 heavy days 85%
 3-4 light days 75-80%

 3rd week*
 3 heavy days 85%
 2-3 light days 75%
*occasionally 1 rep with 95%

4rt week
 2 heavy days 90/95%
 3 light days 75%
+ 1 day test maximum at the end
 
 5th week
 rest week
3 light workouts at 75%

[movmasty]

Coming from a long period at 85%, contest is on Sunday

1 week at 90/95%

1 week at 90%
+ sunday try your max

-Last week(drop any auxiliary except front squat at low reps)
mon-light 85%
tue-very light 75%
wed -try your max
thu-light 85%(few reps and series)
fry-very light 70%
Sat-ultra light 60-65%

One of the most common errors is to have a rest day before the contest, or worst two or more.
When you dont train, the day after you will lift in a worst way
but has to be a workout with a recovery time under 24 hours
The warm up begins 24 hours before ;)

Light doesnt mean only lower weight but also less volume(reps and series)

[TheRedReaper]

With reps, when you do comfortably 3 reps increase weight
and occasionally doing tests, every 2-3 months.

But I can only do comfortably 3 reps for the first set. If you mean when you can do 3,3,3,3,3, increase the weight, this is way too easy and takes too long to get to. I increase the weight when I can do 3,3,2,1,1 (this is on front squat, BTW). But when I increase the weight, I will not be able to do more than 2,1,1,1,F. But I will get better quick. I increase the weight by 5 kilo each time. Maybe I will start increasing by 2.5 oneday, but not now. (If you wait until you can do 3,3,3,3,3 at 100 kilo on the front squat, for example, before you increase the weight to 105 kilo, this will take perhaps 2 weeks longer than if you had increased to 105 after you can do just 3,3,2,1,1. The power you have diminishes so quickly after you do your first few sets that worrying about a clean 5 sets is stupid)
 
There's no point doing tests when you train like this. I know I can only do 5 kilo more in my front squat when I can do what I'm doing now for 2 sets of 3 reps. And when I can do that, I increase. I am always lifting over 95% of my max this way, and I have very predictible results and stable increase.
 
With clean and jerk and snatch, I will not attempt a 5 kilo increase until I can do what I am doing now for about 4 successful lifts out of 5 at least. All in singles. Again, it has me so close to my max that I know exact what I'm capable of, and I have a predictable and stable increase method.
 

Believe me, a weight that you can lift no more than 3 times is a good weight, really if you do 4-5 sets with it, very if you do 4-5 exercises
while if you train daily is too much to handle always.

Like I said, right now I'm training 2 days work for every 1 days rest. So 2/3 days. I front squat heavy morning and arvo for min of 5 sets for multiple days in a row every week. So clearly you're wrong. It's not too much to handle. I am getting better. Just because muscle are stiff and sore, it does not mean they don't work as well...

[Arturo Gómez]

I think that ranges of equivalences reps x maximum is variable along persons.
But I think, too, that this is variable along exercises, i. e., is different (for me) make 3 reps with 85% for a front squat than 3 reps  x 85 % for a clean and jerk.


Both are the same for other people?

[movmasty]

I think that ranges of equivalences reps x maximum is variable along persons.
But I think, too, that this is variable along exercises, i. e., is different (for me) make 3 reps with 85% for a front squat than 3 reps  x 85 % for a clean and jerk.


Both are the same for other people?

NO.

And not only, different ecercises needs different %
Static ecercises can handle more weight than dynamics, squats more than clean and jerk.
Sometimes one can use the same weight for power and complete clean.

I told above "Considering snatch and c&j" that is the % for those ecercise.

[TheRedReaper]

NO.

You should try listening and taking on board what other people say. Nobody is going to listen to someone on the internet who tells them what to do.
 
There are many ways to do the same thing. Many different paths have merit, and each person is suited best to a different style based on their own self and goals. You absolutes are just annoying.

[Andy Dick]

A few unsaid principles need to be addresssed when it comes to intensity and volume.  Obviously age, life demands, sleep, nutrition and time devoted to restorative methods plays a key role.  When all of these are in proper levels recovery can be increased tremendously.  However, I do agree care does need to be taken when constantly approaching maximal weights.  The lifter or coach needs to be cognizant of how the individual's body is doing.  The need to recognize when there is too much stress on the body and one needs to back off a bit.  It is a careful balancing act.  Because you do not want to sacrifice load too much as the whole point of the sport is to lift heavy loads and we know that higher intensities requires a higher recruitment of total muscle fibers to lift the weight.  So a more complete stress on greater muscle fibers accompanies high intensity.  Also other individuals respond to training differently based on muscle fiber make up.
 
However, an individual can overdo training too much.  The effects may not appear for a time but may eventually catch up with you.  Also, remember you do not want to wait until injury or overtraining to change your training.  At that point it is too late and you will lose valuable training time.

[movmasty]

NO.

You should try listening and taking on board what other people say. Nobody is going to listen to someone on the internet who tells them what to do.
 
There are many ways to do the same thing. Many different paths have merit, and each person is suited best to a different style based on their own self and goals. You absolutes are just annoying.

And you should understand the posts before to reply
With my "NO" I was agreeing with Gómez
So that was not the right  post to reply "You should try listening".....

On forums there is a change of opinions, and i can give mine, not others.