he asked how medalist train - ie i took that as serious athletes - not saying what I did is right or wrong but it got the results for me so I m not complaining ( I was ranked Number 1 in the commonwealth at one stage) CJ 345 lbs at 155 lbs bodyweightdoing such complex exercises needed a lot of warm up for me if I could do less to get to max I would have - the reason why I did a lot of max singles is sinmple that what I did in competition - sorry but I never understood how doing 5 sets of 3 reps on 100 kilos helps you snatch 130x1 psychologically for me to snatch 130 I want to snatch 130 again and again full stop Morgan is my surname
Very wrong, strenght comes with time and regularity, not with overtraining and injuries, max weight is for contests, not for training.
Quote from: movmasty on Sep 12, 2012, 09:33 AMVery wrong, strenght comes with time and regularity, not with overtraining and injuries, max weight is for contests, not for training.But if you don't train at over 95% of your max, how do you even know what your max is? And how do you expect to be able to push it higher?
Bodies adjust to the stress you put them under. When I increase my front squat (or any lift, really) by 5 kilo or so to push my max higher, I can usually only do say, 2,1,1,1,F. So it is pretty much my max. But within 2 weeks, I have gotten that up to 3,2,2,1,1, and I am ready for a further increase in weight, and back down to 2,1,1,1,F, or so. So I can constantly see the progress. I can constantly see I am getting stronger and my max lift is getting better with every workout. But this only happens because I always train so close to my max and am forcing my body to adapt to this weight by always trying to do more reps. There are a lot of people out there who like to do as you, 5 sets of 5 reps. They get a good workout, no doubt. But not one of them is truly putting their body under max stress and forcing it to adapt. I cannot agree with what you say, as mine own research in training counters it.
Example: maximum C+J = 150series of 3 C+ J = 110.If the athlete gets 3 x 115, will he lift 155 without other class of training?I think is different improve a repetition in a range of 3 in for example squat, that in clean and jerk.I means, that kilos in 3 repetitions in CJ are too far from maximum to make a projection I think in most of the cases.The different methods, may be logical, and probably accurate for some persons, but not universals.
I competed at the Olympics in 1992 trained for over 25 yrs I did this to qualify for gamesMon, Wed, Fri AMFront squat 60x3 80x3 100x3 120x3 130x3 140x2 150x1 160x1 170x1,1,1,1,1Snatch 50 3x3 60x3 70x3 80x3 90x2 100x2 110x2 120x2 130x1 135x1,1 130x1,1 125x1,1,1Clean and Jerk 60x3 80x3 100x2 120x2 130x1 140x1 150x1 160x1,1 155x1,1 150x1,1,1Mon Wed Fri PMSnatch same but heavier if poss 145x1,1 140x1,1 135x1,1,1CJ same 175/180 2x1 down 5k 2x1 down 5k 3x1Back Squats 60x3 100x3 130x3 150x3 170x1 180x1 190x1 200x1 210 2x1 200 3x1roughly then Tues, Thur, Sat AMPower snatch 50x3,3 60x3 70x3 80x2 90x2 100x1 110 2x1 100 3x1Power CJ 50x2 70x2 90x1 110x1 120x1 130 2x1 120 3x1Tues thurs, sat PMBack squats 60x3 100x3 130x2 150x1 170x1 180x1 190x1 200x1 210x1 220x1 230 2x1 220 3x1Snatch Pull 5x5 with 10 above max snatch on previous day (140/150ish)Clean pulls 5x5 same as above (180-190ish)
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