Topic: How do you drop the bar on the front squat?

[movmasty]

Well, Pisarenko lifted more than Reza Zadeh at just 125k, and Reza Zadeh at 160kg more than Chemerkin at 180, Taranenko lfted 266kg with a bodyweight of 120kg
You must get stronger muscles and flexible tendons to support an overweighted body, meanwhile try to get a more athletic look,
supernutrition is for heavyer weights and trainings, do also some bike and swim.
Remember that 3 months in a year are for rest(that is very light training) and when you rest you have to reduce your fat.
Try to become a Schwarzenegger before than a Reza Zadeh.

What the hell? Become a Shawrneggar? Arnold used **** loads of drugs to get a physique like that. Not to mention he no doubt could not clean and jerk for sh!t.
 
Do you even know why people get fat in heavyweight powerlifting and weightlifting? There is little choice in it. Muscles need fuel to grow. To create the ideal enviroment for muscle growth, you need to eat a LOT of food. Either that or take drugs. Muscles simply need food to grow. Eating this amount of heavy meat, milk, carbohydrates, it is inevitible that you will get some fat. Given there is no cardio training in this sport, you cannot burn the fat off, either.
 
People who have a visible six pack are frankly either not as strong as they could be (meaning they've gimped their weight gain to fit into a lightweight class and thus sacrificed strength they otherwise could have had - which might not matter too much for the comp, but they potentially could have had a much greater PR), or they are feeding their muscle growth with drugs instead of food.
 
Given I am a heavyweight and cannot change that, I do not need to worry about weightclass. I create the most potent bloodstream to feed my muscles as I can by giving them a virtually unlimited source of food. As a result, I gain strength rapidly. This is a basic principle of strength sport. You have just revealed yourself as not very smart.

You think? Well...
The stronger wl in history was Anatoly Pisarenko, look how much fat he has...not only fat doesnt lifts weights, it is a weight itself.
 First of all an athlete must eat constantly, every 3 hours, soon before to get in bed and as soon as wakes up
 Second, has to be the rigth food, eg. unseasoned fish, not French fries and cookies
 Third, ok, has to be an ipercaloric diet, this means to introduce more calories than consumed, not to eat a lot when you want, as a result your fat increase, but must be a slight increase, not a bomb.
 Fourth, increase weight starting from where? You cant simply continue to add fat on fat, this mean that off season, after the main contest, one should try to lose at least some of the fat added,
and this is the error of most heavyweights, to keep the same diet of training, so they add the most weight when not training!
eating good meals is nice, and many guys in superheavy see bodyweight as a symbol of puissance, to be the heaviest in the world if not the stronger...This is wrong
 Fifth, your present fat was there before you started wl, an athlete have to get rid of his old fat before to start to increase his weight, and he will notice that the fat that comes with training is different and in different locations.
Serge Reding started to compete at 67.5kg.....

But i liked your poetic description of weightlifting, poetry of eating.....

[movmasty]

Bruce Wilhelm (6' 3”/1.9 m) and Mario Martinez (6' 2”/1.87 m) are two other examples of finding the right "power zone.” Since Bruce and Mario were supers, you might have thought that all they had to do was gain weight in order to lift more weight, but that wasn't the case—even supers have their "power zone.”
 
 At Bruce's first U.S. Nationals in 1974, he totaled 340 kg at a bodyweight of 130 kg/286 lb.; then at the 1976 U.S. Nationals and Olympic Trials, he did 385 kg weighing 147.5 kg/325 lb. Bruce was strong at 130 kg, very strong at 140 kg/308 lb., and really, really strong at 147.5 kg, but he didn't get any stronger at 155 kg/341 lb. Bruce won the first two World's Strongest Man contests in 1977 and 1978 at 147.5 kg. 

Mario Martinez's first U.S. Nationals in 1980 saw him lift 347.5 kg in the 110-kg class. Mario initially didn't want to be a super heavyweight, and in 1981 he did 160 kg and 200 kg as a 110-kg lifter, but he injured his wrist in training and therefore bombed out in the clean and jerk with 190 kg after snatching 150 kg. He then realized that it was time to move up. Mario also continued to get stronger as he moved up in bodyweight, and his best weight was 140 kg. When he went up to 145+ kg/320+ lb., he didn't get stronger. All of Mario's best lifts were done weighing between 130 and 140 kg.

The reason you aren't necessarily able to lift more weight by gaining bodyweight is that it may slow you down. It changes your body levers, your body just doesn't operate as efficiently, and your coordination suffers. Also—and probably the main reason the increased bodyweight doesn't lead to lifting more weight—you probably don't put on all muscle, but some fat instead. This is true for pure strength, but especially true for power, where speed, balance and coordination are so important.

http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms/Lifts/Your_power_zone.html

[TheRedReaper]

You think? Well...
The stronger wl in history was Anatoly Pisarenko, look how much fat he has...not only fat doesnt lifts weights, it is a weight itself.

I told you. There is more than one way to feed muscles.
 
Look at it like this = training does not make you stronger, food does. The idea is that after you train, you are ripped and tired, your blood is thin and you have no power left. This is not stronger. Only food can bring you back from this brink of exhaustion. Likewise, only food can build muscles. It is food that builds the muscle, not training. All that training does is tell your body where to put the food. Training tells your body it needs to adapt, but it will look to your diet and fuel to do this.
 
There are two types of fuel - food or steroids. Only food fuel will produce fat, however. Taking steroids will feed the muscles without having to add fat, and you will be able to get a lot stronger on a much leaner diet.
 
You do the math. I hold a deep suspicion of heavyweights who are not fat. Not to say they all are on steroids, but still...
 
This does not apply to lightweights, however. Most of them are on a lean diet so they can stay in the lightest weight class as possible. Many are very well chisled but not on drugs due to the lean diet. However, if they adopted a heavier diet, they would undoubtedly get stronger. But then they would be in a heavier weightclass, so increasing their personal best might not be as good when it comes to comps.
 

First of all an athlete must eat constantly, every 3 hours, soon before to get in bed and as soon as wakes up

Food stores better if you eat less times a day but in large amounts. The body will store food when it does not get it as often. So eating only 2 or 3 times a day, but as far apart as possible and in large amounts, is the way to get big. For example, breakfast at 0500, lunch at 1300, dinner at 1900. No snacking except for milk and coca cola or some drink like that. This is how I store weight. The diet where you eat frequently is for lightweights who want to stay light and who don't have a store of bodyfat so get tired quickly.
 

Fourth, increase weight starting from where? You cant simply continue to add fat on fat, this mean that off season, after the main contest, one should try to lose at least some of the fat added,
and this is the error of most heavyweights, to keep the same diet of training, so they add the most weight when not training!

Not everyone here sits on their ass and rests for months on end like you. I train. I eat. It's same all year round.
 

Fifth, your present fat was there before you started wl, an athlete have to get rid of his old fat before to start to increase his weight, and he will notice that the fat that comes with training is different and in different locations.

Why? This has no base. It's just your idea. On my last boxing fight, I weighed 108 kilo before I started training. I got down to 98 kilo in 6 weeks. I can lose weight if I want. But what's the point? 3 years from now I'm going to be so big that the 10 kilo of extra bodyweight I started with is not going to matter at all. Moreover, fat is fuel. I've been training and all the while my body does use that fat to feed the blood stream and thus the muscles. I might be getting heavier now, but since I'm training, it's all good. What you say here is just a silly idea.
 

But i liked your poetic description of weightlifting, poetry of eating.....

You told a heavyweight who does not do roids to get a body like Arnold had. You have given the wost advice in weightlifting history.

[TheRedReaper]

http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms/Lifts/Your_power_zone.html

But total bodyweight is not actually the significant factor I'm refering to. What I am saying is important is feeding the muscles. Bodyweight is a byproduct. A heavier man will usually be stronger not because he is bigger, but because he is better fed and his muscles are more nourished.
 
If you think as your body as a garden and your muscles as plants that must grow, it becomes easy. The more fertile the soil, the better the growth.
 
Likewise, since feeding the muscles is more important than bodyweight, someone on steroids has the advantage since his muscles are just as well fed, but he has the lighter weight. This is why so many small men are just as strong, fool. Drugs.

[movmasty]

http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/opencms/Lifts/Your_power_zone.html

But total bodyweight is not actually the significant factor I'm refering to. What I am saying is important is feeding the muscles. Bodyweight is a byproduct. A heavier man will usually be stronger not because he is bigger, but because he is better fed and his muscles are more nourished.
 
If you think as your body as a garden and your muscles as plants that must grow, it becomes easy. The more fertile the soil, the better the growth.
 
Likewise, since feeding the muscles is more important than bodyweight, someone on steroids has the advantage since his muscles are just as well fed, but he has the lighter weight. This is why so many small men are just as strong, fool. Drugs.

Third, ok, has to be an ipercaloric diet, this means to introduce more calories than consumed, not to eat a lot when you want, as a result your fat increase, but must be a slight increase, not a bomb.

[movmasty]

You told a heavyweight who does not do roids to get a body like Arnold had. You have given the wost advice in weightlifting history.

Excuse me, but why you keep to misunderstand my words? This is not a good way to talk
I didnt say to get exactly like Arnold that was a BB and not a lifter, but to get athletic and skinny in a FIRST TIME, BEFORE to start adding weight and fat.

[movmasty]

I told you. There is more than one way to feed muscles.
 
There are two types of fuel - food or steroids. Only food fuel will produce fat, however. Taking steroids will feed the muscles without having to add fat, and you will be able to get a lot stronger on a much leaner diet.

Not really, hormones are not fuel, they are catalyzers, in fact an athlete on steroids have to and can eat more, specially proteins.
Steroids just tell to the body to keep on transforming proteins from food in muscles.

 

Fourth, increase weight starting from where? You cant simply continue to add fat on fat, this mean that off season, after the main contest, one should try to lose at least some of the fat added,
and this is the error of most heavyweights, to keep the same diet of training, so they add the most weight when not training!

Not everyone here sits on their ass and rests for months on end like you. I train. I eat. It's same all year round.

Then you dont train hard,
like there is a weekly rest, there should be an annual one, so tells the experience from generation of lifters.
Usually competitive athletes have their peak in early october with world/national championship,
From then to december there is the off season rest, restart is in january, that is 9/10 months of hard training and 2/3 light.
People under 20-21 can train hard all the 12 months though.
 

First of all an athlete must eat constantly, every 3 hours, soon before to get in bed and as soon as wakes up

Food stores better if you eat less times a day but in large amounts. The body will store food when it does not get it as often. So eating only 2 or 3 times a day, but as far apart as possible and in large amounts, is the way to get big. For example, breakfast at 0500, lunch at 1300, dinner at 1900. No snacking except for milk and coca cola or some drink like that. This is how I store weight. The diet where you eat frequently is for lightweights who want to stay light and who don't have a store of bodyfat so get tired quickly.

This is totally wrong! Never heard about assimilation, anabolism and catabolism? Where did you take this idea from?
First of all there is a limit for the food that body can assimilate and convert in tissues, both for calories and,specially, proteins , for each meal,
if you eat more there will be some more muscle growth along with fat, if eat very much only fat will increase more, and if you eat too much, food will go into the closet.
After digestion body will produce some anabolic hormone like insulin, but if it is very high there will be a risk of diabetes.
But what happens when all food is processed and there is not any new??
That catabolism begins, not having external food anymore the body breaks down his own tissues, both fat and muscles, and bones too.
So when eating very much you add only fat, but when not eating muscles will go down too,
as a result muscolarity will decrease!
After 6-7 hours from a meal the body has processed all the food and needs some new, but since it takes 3 hours on average to digest, one should eat 3-4 hours after last meal.

Tommy Kono used to eat 3 times when competing in the middleweights, and 6 times when in the lightheavy.

What is your age and height?

[TheRedReaper]

You told a heavyweight who does not do roids to get a body like Arnold had. You have given the wost advice in weightlifting history.

Excuse me, but why you keep to misunderstand my words? This is not a good way to talk
I didnt say to get exactly like Arnold that was a BB and not a lifter, but to get athletic and skinny in a FIRST TIME, BEFORE to start adding weight and fat.

This is the same thing. There is no reason for a heavyweight to lose weight. You suggest running and riding bikes and all sorts of things. No one else does this. It's just you.