How spread is drug usage in weightlifting?

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Chris Ⓐ LeRoux:
The USAW is a state-protected monopoly. Monopolies are always bad for the consumer, provide worse and worse service for higher prices over time. Since the USAW is not in business for profit, serving the consumers is not its priority. It is immune from the profit-loss feedback mechanism and can thus get away with mistreating its consumers.

If I had to guess, I'd say about 80% of the competitors at sr worlds use forbidden drugs and 95-99.9% of the medalists. The drug war will never, ever achieve anything except punishing the innocent and driving the "cheaters" to ever more dangerous drugs.

Albert B. Gonzalez:

--- Quote from: StoneBear on Jun 17, 2012, 09:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Albert B. Gonzalez on Jun 15, 2012, 02:56 PM ---if your worried about what others are using for training other than pure will your in the wrong sport.

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This has got to be the stupidest thing I've read in a long time, and don't tell me I'm in the wrong sport. If someone is cheating in order to beat you in competition unfairly and take your medal, glory, money and well deserved self satisfaction of out doing the competition and even yourself, then yes it worries me and there's nothing wrong with that.

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my, what a childish reponse. how long have you've been weightlifting? You ARE in the wrong sport, theres no doubt about it. You only care about the end result i.e medal , glory etc. And the fact that you're willing to waste time, money, and energy "worrying" about what other lifters are doing shows your willingness to use excuses when competitions don't go your way. By the way there is something very wrong with that.

StoneBear:

--- Quote from: Albert B. Gonzalez on Jun 18, 2012, 02:26 PM ---my, what a childish reponse. how long have you've been weightlifting? You ARE in the wrong sport, theres no doubt about it. You only care about the end result i.e medal , glory etc. And the fact that you're willing to waste time, money, and energy "worrying" about what other lifters are doing shows your willingness to use excuses when competitions don't go your way. By the way there is something very wrong with that.

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Yes, I only care about the end result - money, achievment, healthy body. I don't particularily enjoy the training part, but I like doing it daily because I know I am getting what I want out of it, and I feel good after each training session and depressed if I skipped it instead.

Everyone's different. A lot of world champions ONLY did their sport for money, also, and would not have done it without promise of pay. I'd like to see you go and tell them they're in the wrong sport.

And if I got mechanical hydraulic hips installed and then flogged your ass in a weightlifting comp, you'd no doubt be complaining too. The thing about drugs is it becomes less about who has the best training and genetics and more about who has the best drugs. And when those who do not want to use drugs due to their artificial nature are unable to compete in fair competition because of rule breaking drug users, that's just a bitch. It's unfair, and shouldn't be like that. At the very least, they should hold a special Olympics for drug users, like they do the Paralympics. Then you could roid up all you like and go lift things...

I can't believe you honestly think you can have the reasonable high ground when arguing pro drug use. It's pretty shameful. You should at least try and keep some dignity about you and admit not everyone likes the roids and stop trying to insult them and tell them find a different sport.

StoneBear:

--- Quote from: Chris Ⓐ LeRoux on Jun 18, 2012, 07:50 AM ---The drug war will never, ever achieve anything except punishing the innocent and driving the "cheaters" to ever more dangerous drugs.

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How so?

If people use dangerous drugs, that's their own problem. Some sort of karma for trying to cheat the rules at the very least. As for the innocent, I could not give a damn how much I'm tested for drugs, if that's what you mean. I don't see how else they're punished.

I just hope the Olympics get their act together and find a way to clean the sport %100.

Chris Ⓐ LeRoux:
Well, first of all, just because you enjoy pulling down your pants in front of strangers doesn't mean everyone does. Its a very invasive search conducted without probable cause of a crime against anyone who dares to compete in the sport. Further, they have erased national and world records due to drug testing without even a shred of proof they were tainted and suspended me indefinitely for their paperwork errors, without any due process. Meanwhile drug use is going nowhere. The users are merely being pushed to more dangerous drugs that are less detectable. And the people pushing the drugs on the athletes are meanwhile profiting while the IWF extorts arbitrary untraceable sums of money against innocent members of teams with one bad apple on them. Its all a total scam.

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