Topic: Liao Hui intends to seek arbitration

[Shaun Le Conte]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gg4BgV1om_hSncvWqaG2ECMbL_jg?docId=CNG.16e521d1d4a2f2527c53ea2990ff0692.141

[Shaun Le Conte]

Just noticed that the IWF has quietly changed the world records back to pre-Liao levels.

If he tested positive at the World Championships, how did it take a year to make the news?

International Weightlifting is corrupt

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

Shocking. lol

[Matt Erdman]

Just noticed that the IWF has quietly changed the world records back to pre-Liao levels.

If he tested positive at the World Championships, how did it take a year to make the news?

International Weightlifting is corrupt

Yeah they are talking about something in 2010. Weird

[Ian Gallimore]

There's nothing suspect about this at all. He tested positive OOC, a week or so before the 2010 WWC. He was provisionally suspended, the B sample came back positive, the Chinese disputed the results and launched an appeal, the appeal took a long time, I suspect because Liao's defence involves the same kind of "can be found in the body through means other than deliberate" defence that the Contador case used. Are you suggesting that he should have been named before the appeals process had run its course?

[Shaun Le Conte]

Ok consider the Ben Johnson case, he tested positive and we found out about that within days. It doesn't take a significant amount of time to test a B sample. In the Y Contreras about 6 weeks past between announcing A sample results, and the testing of the B sample.
http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Commissions_PDFfiles/Disciplinary_commission/Contreras.pdf

The results after the A sample were immediately known and publicized. http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/30/doping-olympics-contreras-idUSN3054531420090430

In cycling, Contador's positive test was not kept quiet all this time.

Liao Hui has been treated differently. The loss of his gold medal last year, his world records, etc. is just hitting the media now.

Maybe it's right to wait until absolutely everything has been sorted out, all evidence investigated before news is allowed to publish anything but that is not what happens. Everyone has been named before their appeals have run their course.

Maybe it's the Chinese state-run media that has deliberately kept this quiet.

 

[John Way]

I think all lifters should be banned from competing for the first 2 yrs, get tested, and help out with refereeng, cause in all honesty, who wants some old fart falling asleep during your lift, esp the centre referee?

[Arturo Gómez]

What I saw in my little experience in Uruguay:
We had two groups of lifters:
1) people who worked, study a career, have a familiar life
2) guys that had no regular employ, no secondary school finished, and a great, great ambition.

Is not absolute, some of the first group made some incursion in drug territory, but I think more as curiosity, moda or still immadurity, and some of the second stayed out of drugs.

But most of the people who used steroids was of the second group. And they used because they thougt live without work, with coasts to sports. They married drugs (steroids) with servilistic political position to be ampared against antidoping testes by weighlifting officials.

Those boys finished being a problem: they were no more young, no so good as weightlifters, very stupid to do another thing, and wanting to receive money and more money for nothing. Ways for them: political adulation, sub employ in gyms, prostitution, traffic.

The other group are professionals, managers, etc. Some of us still in weightlifting.

My conclussion is that, in general,  money for weightlifters is no good thing.
Still when steroids and other corruptions are not necessary correlated with it  (people may receive money for lift, and parallel, develope his career and life), if you depend of money from sport, is very probably you enter in a ver bad process.