Topic: Slippery shoulders during cleans. Does it really make a HUGE difference?

[ViKtoricus]

Hi guys. I have a new video of me with a 185-pound attempt. It failed.

As much as I'd like to not make excuses, I believe I have had a much bigger chance of succeeding the lift if my deltoids weren't slippery. No chalk is allowed in the gym, but elitefts sells those "invisible chalk."

I do notice that the recovery phase is less stable and slower when my deltoids are slippery, but much easier if they are dry. But also, I may have over-dipped with the split jerk which caused me to fail.



Apologies for the excessive details. How much difference does it make?

[Shaun Le Conte]

I find this problem is solved by wearing a shirt when doing clean and jerk

Assuming you are already wearing shirts, maybe you are leaning forward in the recovery phase of the clean and/or jerk drive

elbows up

[Andy Dick]

Certain dryfit shirts will let the bar slip some as well.  But I have never had an issue of the bar sliding in a regular t-shirt.  Could be jerk technique.  Much as Shaun has said...make sure you are not allowing your elbows to drop in any part of your jerk or that you are not leaning forward.  This could be a mechanism of a weak low back to cause leaning or flexibility or just failing to stay tight.  Video video video brotha 

[ViKtoricus]

Thanks guys.

I was wearing a tank top... which I usually don't...

Here's the video:

185 pound attempt

I then proceeded to attempt it again twice and failed both times. I could not even stand up with them because the bar would just slide off of my shoulders when I catch it.

Anyway, pay attention to the exaggerated dip! I think that is what has caused it.

[nonfcomm]

My comments here are as much a request for others to judge my ability to analyze technique as to be helpful, so please take anything I say with a grain of salt.

In the clean catch, you seem to catch the bar on the front of your shoulders. It also seems, to me, that through most of the first two pulls, your hips are really high. Also, your dip before the jerk seems long and slows down your split. It looks (again, to me) like you got the bar high enough in the beginning of the jerk, but your feet weren't in position to receive the bar yet.

Anyways, if I have just made an arse of myself, feel free to let me know.

[Andy Dick]

Next video you take can you get a 3/4 angle.  Diagonally on you from the front.  For an example, see page 4 of my knee pain topic.  There is a video of me snatching but it has the sort of angle I would like.  I'd like a different perspective, its helps me see what is going on with the bar at your shoulders.

[ViKtoricus]

Next video you take can you get a 3/4 angle.  Diagonally on you from the front.  For an example, see page 4 of my knee pain topic.  There is a video of me snatching but it has the sort of angle I would like.  I'd like a different perspective, its helps me see what is going on with the bar at your shoulders.

Awesome! I will do that.

[Arturo Gómez]

You are much more strong than that weight.
Go to the gym, and no quit until lift it.
GO!