Topic: News: Peter Musa charged with criminal attempt/homicide, aggravated assault...

[Albert B. Gonzalez]

I find the story unbelievable. An 18-19 year old national junior champion on the streets with a half-loaded revolver looking to mug someone? His family can afford to support his weightlifting but not to feed him or something? Are we to believe that the alleged victim refused to hand over whatever was demanded and so Peter just decided to shoot him? I am skeptical. Most people when confronted with a gun pointed at them would I think hand over what is demanded. Further, I don't trust cops. They are mostly just bullies looking to distribute unconstitutional bills of attainder-tickets-taxes to meet their quotas, and they are in fact criminals since their entire profession exists due to theft-taxation-slavery. A proper justice system would be built on private security-defense, private arbitration, and private aggression-coercion-fraud insurance rather than legalized theft-slavery. I expect cops to lie about everything.

so your saying you think the story is fabricated by police in an attempt to frame peter? was he or was he not holding said gun when it went off?

[Albert B. Gonzalez]

i absoutely agree with you about cops being liars.. not to say there arent good honest cops.

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

I don't know the facts. The news article could be poorly written or the story confused. But a theft-taxation based system, a socialist system, by definition is not overly interested in the individual but rather enforcing government rules and collecting taxes. Its just the nature of the system. In a private system, the accused and victim are paying customers and companies compete for their business. Further no one is above the law, has immunity for violating individual rights, as the police and judges are except when they are caught in their bullying and other unlawfullness, which is rare. Plus, most of the rules-taxes they impose are unconstitutional, including all civil and criminal cases where there is no one with proper standing (victimless crimes). Still, there is crime committed by people other than the government, though its far more rare of course. So, we will have to see what comes out.

[Albert B. Gonzalez]

so using your logic i can come up with my own theory of what may have really happened: since the police dont care who peter musa is
they base their facts of the situation on its face. theres peter with a gun , the " victim"  with a gun shot wound to the leg. the victim tells the cops peter tried to mug him. if this is true then the victim must have also been armed with a weapon for like you said IS YOUR LIFE REALLY WORTH THE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET? And if peter really wanted to kill for money why was he shot in the leg?is it possible peter was also being fired upon?if your in a helpless situation where your staring down the barrel of gun and you dont cooperate with the mugger your either stupid,crazy or armed.

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

What if it was the other guy with the gun looking to mug Peter and Peter, being a young weightlifting feeling invincible, resists, takes the gun and accidentally shoots this guy in the leg in the process? The cops show up, find him with a gun and this guy shot, maybe Peter even has some money the guy claims is his....

[Jesster]

I certainly don't trust police. Years ago I rarely had run-ins with the police. These days, they do anything to detain you.


Ride a bike at night = Get stopped, and treated like a criminal. Cop described me as white-ish to the dispatcher.

Watch your kids get pat down at the airport - Someone asks me to feel up a kid. I quit. There are worse things than being a little broke.

Dumbass seatbelt tickets, yet, motorcyclists don't need helmets. Really?

[Albert B. Gonzalez]

thats intresting ...cause peter didnt become champ by radomly mugging people.whats the use if all you do is work, train and sleep?
Chances are (and im not being racist) that the victim was white the cops were white peter being a person of color was  alledgedly in possesion of a fire arm at the scene . For a cop thats been busy raping his citizens finances on a daily basis this open and shut. i guess a cherry on top of a **** ticket sundae. i hope peter has a good lawyer. i can hear the judge now "SON , I DONT CARE HOW MUCH YOU BENCH PRESS..."

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

I hear you Jesster. The cops certainly weren't always this bad. Things are getting worse very quickly from my view, with their cameras on our roads, their infrared vision devices, steadily expanding ability to perform searches without warrants, electric torture devices, and on and on. I mean, this is the wealthiest country in the world and we have the highest prison population in the world. This fact alone should scream out tyranny to everyone in the country. It warms my heart to see more people waking up to our growing police state. Its way past time to end this absurd "drug war" that has militarized our socialist police force and free ALL prisoners being held for victimless crimes immediately, in mass. In fact, everyone of these unlawfully imprisoned victims of the "drug war" are properly entitled to restitution for their imprisonment. Ideally, I would say the government should give them each an acre of land per year they were imprisoned out West, land which the government is currently holding off the market via physical force.