Topic: Relationship of squats to clean & jerk

[Erik Blekeberg]

This chart has made me realize I need to have a higher Snatch...thanks Chris. Clean & Jerk is coming along but, my lifts should be 10kg higher.

[Judas]

Hmmm... my computer doesn't seem to want to open this, can anyone tell me where my lifts should be with a 195kg front squat, 245kg back squat at 105kg?

I wanna know how much work i need to do...

[Ross Miller]

Judas,

In relation to your front squat your snatch should be about 134kg and your clean & jerk should be about 166kg.

In relation to you back squat your snatch should be about 141kg and your clean & jerk should be about 174kg.

Ross

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

Hope it helps some people. Its been sitting in my documents folder for years now. Last time I talked with Dr. Fry he mentioned the article was nearly done or already submitted for review as I somewhat recall. No idea when it will be published...

[Shaun Le Conte]

Looking at the spread sheet I see it's stating the equations of the lines of best fit for pairs of exercises. I see above in Ross's response to "Judas" that the front squat and back squat results give different values for the snatch and clean  jerk - what to do with that? Probably average the two, or take the results predicted from the front squat as I assume the front squat has a higher correlation.

[Chris Ⓐ LeRoux]

All the correlations were above .9. The difference as I recall between the front squat and back squat relationships were pretty minimal. I interpret this to mean they are nearly equivalent in value, each with different things to offer. Thus I wouldn't target one or the other in the hopes it will pay off in gains in a particular exercise more than another. For instance, I do very little front squating these days since its more wear and tear on the body for me. But, my front squat is fine- goes up (or down) with my backs.

[dabrock]

r>.9 WOW that's almost unheard of!

[Justin Ott]

..., I do very little front squating these days since its more wear and tear on the body for me. But, my front squat is fine- goes up (or down) with my backs.

Thats funny because for me I notice that front squats are less wear and tear on me than back squats, but since I started back squating more... my knees are getting used to it and they feel good.