Topic: First pull in the Snatch - thinking of cues

[dabrock]

Very true, I just wanted to see someone else who was in my boat overcoming the same issues. Learning from others at your own level isn't a bad idea since you can compare their weaknesses against elites who don't have them and learn more about your own weaknesses.

[Arden Cogar Jr.]

Very true, I just wanted to see someone else who was in my boat overcoming the same issues. Learning from others at your own level isn't a bad idea since you can compare their weaknesses against elites who don't have them and learn more about your own weaknesses.

Completely agreed!!!  If you go back to this time last year on my vids, I hope you will not I've progressed a bit.  I hope?   

What the Elites can do with weights is simply mesmerizing.  So much respect for the effort and the skill.  And there are plenty of folk on this board that are soooo darn close to that level.  That speaks volumes to me. 

I'm just an older man trying to perfect the technique as best I can with the hope of slowing my gradual progression into middle age.  Simply amazed that I can continue to make progress strength wise.

I so love to train and understand what takes what to get the body to do what needs done to be "good enough."

All the best,
 Arden

[Brooke Burkhalter]

Being a beginner as well I know I learn just as much from other beginners as I do the experienced lifters. I think this is because the tips that have worked for us are fresh on our minds.

Arden, where did you get the tip of "getting the chin and tailbone as far apart as possible"?

[Franklin Herman]

Being a beginner as well I know I learn just as much from other beginners as I do the experienced lifters. I think this is because the tips that have worked for us are fresh on our minds.

Arden, where did you get the tip of "getting the chin and tailbone as far apart as possible"?

I learned of it from Dan John's free download "From the Ground Up" .. an excellent read.

[Franklin Herman]

Thanks so much.  I'm starting to get it I think.  Will take a lot of effort.  I just had a session of box power snatches and snatch drill work.  I like the lidea of getting as much distance between my chin and my tail bone.  Tonight I thought about getting as much pre-stretch on my hamstrings as possible, and I think I got somewhere.  I think?

here's some snippets of what I did tonight:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

i'm on a deload week, so I'm really thinking about getting my first pull right.  I hope?
All the best,
 ARden

Very nice work Arden .. you obviously are toying with that snatch weight.

Given the large discrepancy between your OHS and full squat snatch, perhaps you  should temporarily forgo all  the power version of the lifts and concentrate on the full lifts as my coach had me do. This means even if you catch the lift high, you immediately ride it all the way down to get used getting under heavy loads quickly. Your legs will get considerably more fatigued at first until they get conditioned.

[Arden Cogar Jr.]

Frank,
  that is excellent advice, unfortunately I cannot commit to doing the full movements multiple times during the week.  The focus of my training is my other silly hobby which requires a lot CNS requirement and physical output.  I tried doing the full movements 3 sessions a week, but my body had nothing left for my event work.  Further, the power movements from blocks or hangs allowed me to increase the volume without over taxing my aging body - while still continuing to get stronger and quicker.  Which I did not think was possible at my age, but I have; so I'm stoked about that.   

  I've recently incorporated what I like to call - Drop Downs - cleans and snatchs off high blocks with decent weights after my power movements on Days1 and Days 2 of my sessions - which is immensely helping me get under weights.

  It's the pull I'm tyring to sort out.  Especially that first pull. I've gotten some good cues, so I'm going to go back to the platform and think my way through them.

  Thanks so much.

All the best,
 Arden

Thanks so much.  I'm starting to get it I think.  Will take a lot of effort.  I just had a session of box power snatches and snatch drill work.  I like the lidea of getting as much distance between my chin and my tail bone.  Tonight I thought about getting as much pre-stretch on my hamstrings as possible, and I think I got somewhere.  I think?

here's some snippets of what I did tonight:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

i'm on a deload week, so I'm really thinking about getting my first pull right.  I hope?
All the best,
 ARden

Very nice work Arden .. you obviously are toying with that snatch weight.

Given the large discrepancy between your OHS and full squat snatch, perhaps you  should temporarily forgo all  the power version of the lifts and concentrate on the full lifts as my coach had me do. This means even if you catch the lift high, you immediately ride it all the way down to get used getting under heavy loads quickly. Your legs will get considerably more fatigued at first until they get conditioned.

[Bob Takano]

The advice on the lats is good. Keep your torso in relation to the bar by using your lats.  Shoulders and hips should rise at the same rate of speed.  Think of the bar as immoveable, and the floor as moveable.  Then think of pushing the floor down with your feet.  Hope these conceptualizations help!

[Arden Cogar Jr.]

Bob,
 Thank you very much!! I will try that tomorrow morning when I snatch.  I really appreciate your time.

All the best,
 Arden

The advice on the lats is good. Keep your torso in relation to the bar by using your lats.  Shoulders and hips should rise at the same rate of speed.  Think of the bar as immoveable, and the floor as moveable.  Then think of pushing the floor down with your feet.  Hope these conceptualizations help!