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Offline kirksman teo

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #8 on: Dec 20, 2009, 08:27 PM »
I've done varying things to build leg strength but, they all revolve around the back squat. When I was up at 105kg I was doing 5x5 Bill Starr style Squatting program. Just recently, I tried the Smolov 3 week Squat cycle and it helped to push my back squat up to 230kg. From Smolov I have learned that both high rep low set and low rep high set work. The key is the weight used, it needs to be heavy and hard. This is why I actually programmed a different squat routine for my athletes that rotated between 4 sets of 9, 5 sets of 5 and 10 sets of 3 with varying percents. The program actually worked pretty well and it didn't drain them like Smolov did to me.

Front Squats teach comfort in the hole in my opinion. I'll agree with teo and say that my back would be the reason I lose any front squats....or more importantly my core. I round forward and feel my belly go soft. I find it a lot harder to get a deep breath and maintain tension when I have weight sitting on top of my chest. I add in Front Squats after at least a month of dedicated strength work. This is at the start of the "season" though and way before any competition is coming. After that, its maintenance and smaller "easier" strength cycles.

I love how Westerners call me "Teo". LoL! It's Kirk actually.

I don't even PROGRAM my squats. Its just work hard like hell. If the last workout, I reached my max and it was fast, I'd just do 5-8 sets of doubles. If my technique is feeling iffy like yesterday when I got pinned by 180KG, and speed is slow, I do between 3-5 repetitions. It's just max max max effort. Then I do some sprints or box jumps or depth jumps

Offline Erik Blekeberg

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #9 on: Dec 20, 2009, 09:46 PM »
I just looked at the most recognizable part of your name but, I will call you Kirk from now on if you want.

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Offline kirksman teo

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #10 on: Dec 20, 2009, 10:21 PM »
I just looked at the most recognizable part of your name but, I will call you Kirk from now on if you want.

Oh no it's fine. It's no big deal. I had problems figuring out how to call my Western friends back in school too (at the beginning). Apparently, the middle name isn't the surname. Complex. Back to squatting then!

Offline James A. Naples Jr.

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #11 on: Dec 22, 2009, 06:51 PM »
Sorry it took me a bit to get back to the forum.  Thank you very much for all of the information.  I will definitely try out a few approaches and see what works best for me.    James

Offline ado gruzza

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #12 on: Dec 25, 2009, 02:31 PM »
Erik,
would you be so kind to share with us some of the squat programs you wrote for your athlets?
I've some of my athlets that have a lack in squat (I'm powerlifting coach) and I'm looking for some different ideas that dont burn them too much.

If anyone else got ideas I appreciate. I came to a weightlifting forum first of all to stole some different ways from you.
Thank you.

Offline Erik Blekeberg

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #13 on: Dec 25, 2009, 03:41 PM »
Week 1
Monday- 70%x4x9

Wednesday – 80%x5x5

Saturday – 85%x10x3

Week 2 (Add 10kg to all weights)
Monday- 70%x4x9

Wednesday – 80%x5x5

Saturday – 85%x10x3

Week 3 (Add 15kg to all weights)
Monday- 70%x4x9

Wednesday – 80%x5x5

Saturday – 85%x10x3
 
Week 4
Monday- 85%x5x3

Wednesday – 75%x3x8

Saturday – Heavy Single


That's a base strength program I use. It's based off the Smolov but, it doesn't trash you as much and still provides squat strength gain. I find it important to integrate it with overhead work and pulls.
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Offline Andy Dick

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #14 on: Dec 26, 2009, 01:29 PM »
For Ado,

I am the assistant powerlifting coach at my high school.  We have them squat 2x a week.  Monday is heavy squat and leg emphasis.  3 working sets and reps vary based on where they are on their cycle either, 12, 8, 5, or 3.  Thursday is heavy deadlift day and light squats same rep scheme.  Last set they do a rep max of as many as they can do with the final set of that day.  Each week we adjust their weight based on how well they did on the last set.  It seems to be working out well for the kids because they have been getting gains pretty steadily and quickly.  Most kids after a couple months are repping their previous max.  We really try to focus on giving the kids adequate time to rest and recover.  Wed is an off day or a speed and agility day (many are football players) and the weekend is off.  Hope that helps a little.

Offline Brooke Burkhalter

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Re: Squats --- Leg Strength?
« Reply #15 on: Dec 26, 2009, 10:27 PM »
I recently had the largest squat increase in a 4 week period that I have ever had, 10 kilos in 4 weeks with only once per week squatting. Lots of sprints, jumps and weighted throws 3x per week and Oly power versions 3x per week. The only other direct leg exercises I did were split squats once per week and body weight glute ham raises.

I have lifted this amount of weight before although I weighed more.