OK - just read through the thread and has given me some things to think about, so thanks Arden for bumping it up (yes, pun intended).Just thinking out loud (and please point out the flaws in the reasoning), but as a fairly new lifter, seems my efforts may be better spent on making sure not to over extend my hips forward, and work to improve my timing between moving my hips forward to get into the power position and initiating the vertical phase of the second pull. For now, maybe not focus as much on "where" the bar is contacting my legs/groin/whatever.Any thoughts on this approach?