Topic: Doing a persuasive paper on olympic lifting and athletes

[Alex Carter]

Basically this is my final paper for the year in my english class, I have to persuade  grouphug:)athletes(football,soccer,golf,basketball,etc) to train the olympic lifts in order to improve their performance out their on the court,field,etc. I am just wondering if you guys have some really important information or points I should make in my paper, we are doing the paper in parts and today I am finishing up my Outline, which is just basic information that will be in my paper. Currently I inform and persuade them about Training, Diet, and Benefits. I would like some more insight as I know you guys know your stuff, thanks a ton.

 

[Shaun Le Conte]

Don't forget to include and address arguments against athletes using olympic lifts. That's an essential feature of this type of essay.

Post your outline if you want so nobody has to spend their time telling you things you've already included.

[Alex Carter]

Hey thats a good idea bro, here is what I have so far, I wanna include what you said though

[Shaun Le Conte]

So far you've argued that weightlifting is good for athletes, and we can all agree with that. The key, IMO for this essay is to state why athletes from different sports should be doing snatches, cleans etc instead of just squats, leg extensions, leg curls and so on like some of the HIT people would argue. Since it is for an English class not a PE class I wouldn't dwell on the details of specificity, etc too much but I would try to find some sources and properly quote them/include them in your references. I think that is what an English prof would look for.

You are on the right track with examples of weightlifters that display impressive explosiveness and athletic ability. One could argue that those guys were already athletic, or that is wasn't specifically olympic lifting that made them that way. There may be peer reviewed articles published that compare the effects of different training methods with regards to improving vertical leap or other things an athlete might value.

The section about diet really isn't relevant to your argument. It's a different topic (how an athlete should eat).

[Andy Dick]

Hey Alex,

Here is a proposal I put together for the fitness club I work at that argues the benefits of olympic lifting.  Many of the arguments you are using are probably covered, but the important part is that it includes research.  So feel free to get a hold of the research I have referenced at the end and use it for you paper.  I also know for a fact there is research out there that deals with greater improvement in verticle with programs that emphasized cleans over just squatting but you will have to find them I don't remember the citations.  On a side note, in this paper you will see a lot of word pay on the name of olympic weightlifting (ie it is not actually used) this was because the owner doesn't look favorably on our "big weightlifter types" so we played word games to sneak it past her :P

[Andy Dick]

One thing you can talk about is power development, quickness development (rate of force development), muscle syncronization (think the switch of muscle fire from the pull to jumping under the weight to squatting back up).  I also agree with shaun is that some of your paper needs to deal with talking about the superiority of olympic training to other methods (HIT, Super Slow, etc.) because these are the main opponents and showing oly lifting to be superior as strength to a persuasive paper.

[Alex Carter]

So far you've argued that weightlifting is good for athletes, and we can all agree with that. The key, IMO for this essay is to state why athletes from different sports should be doing snatches, cleans etc instead of just squats, leg extensions, leg curls and so on like some of the HIT people would argue. Since it is for an English class not a PE class I wouldn't dwell on the details of specificity, etc too much but I would try to find some sources and properly quote them/include them in your references. I think that is what an English prof would look for.

You are on the right track with examples of weightlifters that display impressive explosiveness and athletic ability. One could argue that those guys were already athletic, or that is wasn't specifically olympic lifting that made them that way. There may be peer reviewed articles published that compare the effects of different training methods with regards to improving vertical leap or other things an athlete might value.

The section about diet really isn't relevant to your argument. It's a different topic (how an athlete should eat).

Thanks, I will compare to other training routines that have you do exercises that arn't oly lifting, by the way the reason I included diet was because I want to try and built the perfect athlete who does olympic lifting. Basically I want to tell them about the greatest way to train, and other little things like diet that will help them become their best.

[Alex Carter]

Hey Alex,

Here is a proposal I put together for the fitness club I work at that argues the benefits of olympic lifting.  Many of the arguments you are using are probably covered, but the important part is that it includes research.  So feel free to get a hold of the research I have referenced at the end and use it for you paper.  I also know for a fact there is research out there that deals with greater improvement in verticle with programs that emphasized cleans over just squatting but you will have to find them I don't remember the citations.  On a side note, in this paper you will see a lot of word pay on the name of olympic weightlifting (ie it is not actually used) this was because the owner doesn't look favorably on our "big weightlifter types" so we played word games to sneak it past her :P

Thanks man I appreciate it, I will try and incorporate what you have, the essay is going to be 8-10 pages, we are going piece by piece basically and that file u uploaded will definately help, thanks.