Topic: Overhead Squat to Snatch Ratio

[Aussie]

Sorry to interupt...when doing an OHS how wide should your arms be? In the same spot as when doing a snatch, where they are when doing a jerk or something else?!

My OHS is slightly higher than my sn

[Judas]

Funny, i've snatched 120, with pretty decent form i think. Yet i had to strain to drop-snatch 70. Cool huh...???

I dont have any recent experience, but back when i was powerlifting with some weightlifting assistance, i was doing full snatches, and a LOT ov OHS. I'd try for max OHS singles, bodyweight for reps (which was pretty much max weight, i got 3) and 10 rep maxes and even 15 rep maxes (just to show that Crossfit chick who's boss...). I wasn't snatching well back then, but they were full and deep, just extremely inconsistent (max was say, 90, but i was hit or miss with anything over 70). When i started doing a lot ov OHS, my snatches got a LOT more stable in the bottom. So much so i've been meaning to get back into that OHS madness, not that bottom stability is a weakness for me anymore.

Perhaps spending so much time in what should be the perfect catch position (why would you OHS in a poor position?) doing OHS reps, the body might better (subconsciously) understand where it needs to put that bar when you pull it?

I tried some light (70kg) OHS recently, and found them pretty hard actually. I did instantly tie my old rep PR, but i'm snatching like, 30kg more now. The really weird part is, my OHS portion ov the actual snatch lift is exceedingly strong. Its the eccentric that kills me, back then too.

[Arden Cogar Jr.]

To Answer Aussie's question, most folk use an OHS grip the same as their snatch. Or at least they should. I think?

Personally, until recently straining a hip flexor, I could OHS 140+, but I couldn't get anywhere near that for a full squat snatch.  I'm still power snatching a good 10 to 15 kilos more than I can squat snatch.  I've got some serious technical issues to work on.  That, IMO, points that I have not developed, as Mike put it, the skill required for the squat snatch.  And I'm not going to deny that at all.  I'll readily admit it.

I've always wanted to do some heavier drop snatches, but that may be contra-indicated for those of us getting on in years.

all the best,
 Arden

[Dustin Oranchuk]

i have never once done an overhead squat or drop snatch with anything more then the bar to warm up. but i have pretty solid snatch strength and technique.  It probably depends on each persons flexibility, speed, position and stability, some need the overhead squat and for others it would just be a waste of time.

[Dave Chiu]

The purpose of the behind-neck-Sn-gr-thruster as mentioned

is to give the wrists a break btwn every cpl OHS.

OHS are the single best way to work the shldrs,

along w/ all the other benefits,

but girlish wrists like mine do complain...