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Offline Dean Redzic

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 08:46 PM »
Thanks Very much Steve G,

I am very keen to hear the diet of Damon(just out of interest). Hopefully he doesnt mind posting it.

So with the training there weren't more working set used? quicker workouts? Additional workouts? Nothing like that?

Was he training using a similar method before?

I am about to switch to a two x day workout comming from a basic old style periodized workout, which was once a day 4 times a week. I am wondering how that will effect my bodyweight.

Have any of you guys (Glenn or Steve...) noticed a change in physique when trying your methods of "Amercianised Bulgarian training"? Did body weight change at all (i guess this is more dirrected at athletes who were training differently before hand)

thanks Dean

Offline Steve Gough

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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2005, 10:28 AM »
Dean R,

I left out that the last time Damon had a bodyfat test it was in the neighborhood of 35%. I believe that was at least a couple of years ago.

I have a theory, substaniated only by what my eyes tell me and the little bit of experience I've had thus far. When I see the top level international lifters on a Bulgarian or Bulgarian type program they all seem to be very lean, almost "wolfen-like" as opposed to the more heavier/thickly muscled Soviet appearance. It could be the training difference. It could be something different. I've come to the conclusion sometime ago that the Bulgarian system had far better/quicker recovery from intensity as opposed to the high volume training of the Soviet system. One might infer that "restoratives" are far more in order to recover from said high volume training.

I've gone off on a tangent, but I've wanted to say the above for sometime.
Getting back to Damon... before he moved up here to train with me, he had already gone towards my system for a little while. He has had no trouble fitting in with this work. As an example this wednesday past, Damon snatched, using what I will call the "wave" up and down three times. 30 minute break C&Jed  up to max. 30 minute break again and snatch again in three "waves", all but the last wave at near 100% to max+. FSed afterwards, but was pretty beat by then. Today, friday, will tell the tale.

I am not advocating "jumping right in". It may take a little time and effort to be able to get to the level (training wise) you want to reach. I think that I/we need to know a little bit about you and your level before you jump into the deep end of the pool. Nevertheless, it is good to hear your willingness to try this system. It would also help to know your age, and aspirations. Do you train alone, have coaching and competitive experience? Have you got both lifts down "pat"... will we be reinforcing good technique or bad habits? Etc, etc...

Steve

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2005, 11:06 PM »
Thanks Steve,

I am 25 years old. I have 1 year weightlifting and 2 years powerlifting.
I have a coach who works with me everyday in the afternoons and a second coach is always close by.

The coach i train with is very old fashioned, but has a good eye for technique. I was training 5 days a week, with more assistance exercises than i could name. My main problem as i see it is that i dont get to handle the clean and jerk and snatch often enough, so when i step up to the bar, it feels very foriegn. He is quick to get me to do some kind variation of the lift to fix a week spot, even though my tech is quite good, it gets worse the moretime i spend away from the classical lifts.

At the moment i am training C&J, snatch and front/back squat 3 times a week, to build myself into the training style. Next month i will build in days (tues, thurs, sat) with assistance exercises. and then when it feels right, add in a second session. on mon,wed,fri.

Since doing the C&J, Snatch + squat 3 times a week, i have added 5kgs to everylift.(in two weeks)

My current weakness is my leg strength. I lift my bum first causing the pull to sway and end up losing the bar forward. This also stems from a weak back, when i go too heavy my chest caves in. Both these things have me lifting well bellow what i should be.

My aspirations are to Clean and Jerk over 200kgs and snatch 170. I aim to do this with in 4 years to be able to qualify for the next commonweath games (i am australian). I currently go to univeristy full time, and work 2 days a week. I have the time to train 2 times a day. I realise at 25 im no spring chicken, but i have a big heart and want to smash my goals and out perform myself.

I currently clean and jerk 105, snatch 75, and front squat 130 (i havent tried more)

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2005, 07:57 AM »
Dean,

I have asked Damon to respond to you. He says he has had trouble registering on the forum. If anything probably due to everyone being away for the Nationals. I will ask him again today to register and answer your post.

When he does we will take it from there...

Steve

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2005, 07:43 PM »
Steve.
If its easier, damon can email me directly. My email address is in my profile...if not i will wait till he posts on here. There is no great rush.


thanks for all the help

dean

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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2005, 06:53 PM »
Dean,

For some reason Damon has not been able to register. Enclosed is his email:  

                        fox6700@aol.com

He is waiting to hear from you.

Steve