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Offline Aaron Webster

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How much improvement is normal?
« on: Sep 12, 2006, 10:24 PM »
hey,
 
      I  was just wondering how fast a lifter in his mid-teens should improve with good, and consistent training.

                             Thanks, Aaron
Current Bests
Snatch - 93
Clean & Jerk - 116
Back Squat - 142.5
Front Squat - 117.5
Body-weight - 85-88kg

Offline Chris Ⓐ LeRoux

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How much improvement is normal?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 13, 2006, 07:58 AM »
Aaron,

If the coaching is good, progress should be steady for a "long" time. Its hard to be precise without more information.

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Offline Jim Hooper

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How much improvement is normal?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 13, 2006, 05:37 PM »
The rate will be unique for each lifter depending on myriad variables.  Here, however, is a quote that will give you an idea of just how much is possible for some people.  

Its from a 1988 article by Istvan (Steve) Javorek, a former Romanian coach, describing the progress of a Romanian Olympic medalist (Bronze, 1984, 75 kg) named . . . Dragomir Cioroslan.  (See the Hall of Fame on this web site.)

"He showed an incredible rhythm of improvment from a beginning body weight of 37 kg in August 1969 to 63 kg in the spring and 65 kg in the autumn of 1972.  His snatch improved from 35 kg in August 1969 to 100 kg in the spring and 107.5 kg in the autumn of 1972.  In the clean and jerk he went from 50 kg in August 1969 up to 137.5 in the autumn of 1972."

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 13, 2006, 08:20 PM »
Dragomir is a fantastic story. He was prescribed weightlifting due to being so undersized and physically immature as a child and he ended up being an Olympic medalist. He may have won the Gold medal if he hadn't been injured right before the 84 Olympics. I think he got out of the hospital, after a serious back injury sustained during a very heavy back squat, just a few weeks before them...

Weightlifting is all about heart- desire and willingness to sacrifice over a long period of time.
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Offline Jim Hooper

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How much improvement is normal?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 14, 2006, 02:21 PM »
You bet.  Its easy to get so caught up in fiber types, programming, and so forth that we forget the criticality of guts, perseverance, and hard work.

Offline patrick ward

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How much improvement is normal?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 14, 2006, 05:10 PM »
Quote from: "Chris LeRoux"
Dragomir is a fantastic story. He was prescribed weightlifting due to being so undersized and physically immature as a child and he ended up being an Olympic medalist. He may have won the Gold medal if he hadn't been injured right before the 84 Olympics. I think he got out of the hospital, after a serious back injury sustained during a very heavy back squat, just a few weeks before them...

Weightlifting is all about heart- desire and willingness to sacrifice over a long period of time.



wow, what a great story.

Is there anywhere that I can read more about his story?  A book?  A web page?

Offline Jake Harrison

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How much improvement is normal?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 14, 2006, 09:41 PM »
Quote from: "Jim Hooper"
You bet.  Its easy to get so caught up in fiber types, programming, and so forth that we forget the criticality of guts, perseverance, and hard work.


exactly, stick to the basics and work hard
hard work+consistency