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Offline Matt Denslinger

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« on: Mar 22, 2006, 01:23 PM »
I was able to meet up with someone who has been training for about a year and had him help me with technique work, since I figured he probably knows more than myself.

I was trying some hang snatches and he kept telling me not to lean backwards when I extend. Just shrug up???

Also for squats he was telling me to keep my toes angled in more. He told me try to keep them straight as possible? Also I like to have my hands out towards the collars, does it matter? I realize every individuals structure is different.

Should I post a pics of my squat? Front pic? Back pic and side pic?

Thoughts/Opinions/Advice?

Offline Paul LaDuke

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« Reply #1 on: Mar 22, 2006, 08:53 PM »
Matt,

My opinion is that there are several ways to correctly train the squat.  As long as you're keeping your back flat to slightly arched, getting below parallel and your knees do not cave in towards the middle, and keeping your head up, then you're performing the squat correctly.  

As far as gripping the bar, I like to have my hands as close together as I can as this increases the size of my traps and gives me a nice shelf to put the bar on.  But I don't think this really is important, just a preference.

Squat style all depends on what you are training for.  For athletes, I like to vary stances (change width, stagger, lateral shifting, lunge squat, split etc.).  Most power lifters will perform the squat with their feet as wide as possible and toes really pointed out.  This shortens the distance that they have to move the bar, and makes it a little easier for them to get the depth, since many lack the flexibility needed to get parallel with a narrow stance.

But since you are a weightlifter, you are going to want to train with a similar stance as your clean catch.  This should be with your heels wide enough to fit your hips between them or slightly wider than shoulder width.  Your toes should point out a little bit and keep your knees from caving toward the center.  You may also want to train the full squat 50% of the time or so, rather than just the parallel squat since success in the clean and the snatch can depend on getting out of the deep squat.  Make sure that you have the flexiblity in your hamstrings and low back before attempting a weighted full squat.
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 23, 2006, 01:50 PM »
Quote from: "Paul LaDuke"
Matt,

My opinion is that there are several ways to correctly train the squat.  As long as you're keeping your back flat to slightly arched, getting below parallel and your knees do not cave in towards the middle, and keeping your head up, then you're performing the squat correctly.  

As far as gripping the bar, I like to have my hands as close together as I can as this increases the size of my traps and gives me a nice shelf to put the bar on.  But I don't think this really is important, just a preference.

Squat style all depends on what you are training for.  For athletes, I like to vary stances (change width, stagger, lateral shifting, lunge squat, split etc.).  Most power lifters will perform the squat with their feet as wide as possible and toes really pointed out.  This shortens the distance that they have to move the bar, and makes it a little easier for them to get the depth, since many lack the flexibility needed to get parallel with a narrow stance.

But since you are a weightlifter, you are going to want to train with a similar stance as your clean catch.  This should be with your heels wide enough to fit your hips between them or slightly wider than shoulder width.  Your toes should point out a little bit and keep your knees from caving toward the center.  You may also want to train the full squat 50% of the time or so, rather than just the parallel squat since success in the clean and the snatch can depend on getting out of the deep squat.  Make sure that you have the flexiblity in your hamstrings and low back before attempting a weighted full squat.


Yeah, well actually all my previous squatting before beginning weightlifting has been below parallel, however I didn't have as good as back arch as I do now.

I'm just concerned about the forces on my knee. Don't want to mess up a knee again.

I'll put a pic or two up later in the week of my squat and maybe OHS to see what you think.

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« Reply #3 on: Mar 23, 2006, 07:54 PM »
IMHO, the squat is the best exercise you can do to help your knee IF you perform them correctly.  The key is the knee can not cave towards the mid line during maximal squats.  Keep your knees the same width as your heels during the ascent and your knees will be fine.  

I should know, not because of my training but because I ruptured my ACL and MCL in 1987.  Squats have never bothered my knee and I actually start to feel knee pain if I haven't squatted in a while.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 02, 2006, 06:25 PM »
I now realize my errors, which unfortunately left my body FUBAR. Right now July is at 50-50.

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« Reply #5 on: Apr 19, 2006, 07:49 AM »
Took some pics of my squats. Didn't have anyone to take them so I have to prop the camera on something. They are side shots, but if you see anything wrong let me know.

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 20, 2006, 02:49 PM »
its looks perfect to me.
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